# August 22, 2024, Advisory Committee only

**URL:** <https://forum.openrefine.org/t/august-22-2024-advisory-committee-only/1737>\
**Category:** Day-to-day project operations\
**Tags:** minute-advisory\
**Created:** [August 23, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/august-22-2024-advisory-committee-only/1737 "2024-08-23T15:26:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/august-22-2024-advisory-committee-only/1737/1 "2024-08-23T15:26:32Z")

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## Attendees

- Jan Ainali - Advisory Committee
- Martin Magdinier - Project Manager
- Esther M. Jackson - Advisory Committee

## Discussion

### Survey

We received 101 answers so far. Martin is planning an email blitz in the first week of September.

### Funding

The group discussed the **[Wikimedia Community Fund](https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Programs/Wikimedia_Community_Fund):** - see thread [Grant Opportunity: Wikimedia Community Fund:](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/grant-opportunity-wikimedia-community-fund/1728)

- Martin pointed out that we could build the application based on Sandra [report next step](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OpenRefine/Training_2023-24/Final_report#Next_steps_and_opportunities) for the Wikimedia Commons train the trainer grant. Jan and Esther agree.
- Creation of an OpenRefine Wikimedian liaison role, doing active outreach, answering Wikimedia related questions,s and escalating bug reports and issue
- We could ask for funds to attend conferences to represent OpenRefine (Wikimedia, Wikidata, GLAM Wiki Conference, OpenRefine Barcamp)
- We cannot request funds for technical development like:
  - Not fixing bug
  - Not addressing Lexeme or other feature request.
  - Wikibase reconciliation endpoint

- Some of those activities (liaison, conference support) are described in the EOSS-6 grant. We can adapt part of the application for the Wikimedia Community Found.
- Jan and Esther mentioned that the grant may cover improving open knowledge at large, as long it is tied to wiki-related activities. We need to build trust with the grantor to get regular financing over time
- Esther indicated that we should propose measurable activities that we can report back on.
- North American committees fund activities mostly in North America.
- Martin will validate the approach described above in the September 3rd call.

**[The NGI Zero](https://nlnet.nl/commonsfund/)**

- Should we use it to fund another barcamp?
- That would be an easy application by reusing information from the 2024 event.
- Our 2024 barcamp budget falls within the budget available from the NGI Zero grant.

Martin sent the **EOSS-5** no-cost extension request.

### Governance:

Most of the conversation regarding governance happened in the a call with Danielle Robinson from CS&S the following hours. We will publish the minutes separately.

The group reviewed the updated proposal from Vivra and found it did not cover what we needed.

Esther asked:

- What are essential activities
- How do we pay for the project manager. Who seek funding for it?

### Hiring

With the ongoing governance conversation, the group discussed how to approach hiring a developer to replace Antonin. All feel that we cannot start the process without a buy-in from the community.  
Jan suggested using the lazy consent approach to validate the project needs for this role. Once we have the buy-in from the community, we can create a Working Group for the hiring process.