# Issue with uploading captions to Wiki Commons Files - permission denied / Uploading too fast?

**URL:** <https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613>\
**Category:** Support and Helpdesk\
**Tags:** wikibase, wikimedia-commons\
**Created:** [October 27, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613 "2025-10-27T16:34:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![ConBo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/conbo/32/1678_2.png) [@ConBo](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/ConBo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/1 "2025-10-27T16:34:13Z")

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Hi everyone,  
I uploaded 160 pictures in a batch sucessfully to Wiki Commons, but had issues with uploading the captions as well. I always get the error message in the wikibase edit results:

> [permissiondenied] You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action.

I tried to upload only the captions afterwards to the reconcieled files, with the same result. They have the correct lenght (under 250 characters) and have no wikitext.

In the command/code window wikibaseapi seems to send the message "We are editing too fast." See code:

> 05:25:33.282 [refine] GET /command/wikidata/login (140207ms)  
> 05:25:33.289 [refine] POST /command/wikidata/preview-wikibase-schema (6ms)  
> 05:25:40.395 [refine] POST /command/wikidata/perform-wikibase-edits (7106ms)  
> 05:25:40.395 [..mWikibaseEditsOperation] Performing edits (0ms)  
> 05:25:40.395 [..ting.EditBatchProcessor] Requesting documents (0ms)  
> 05:25:44.048 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6268 milliseconds. (3653ms)  
> 05:25:51.684 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 692 milliseconds. (7636ms)  
> 05:25:52.585 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 44 milliseconds. (900ms)  
> 05:25:52.838 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 4 milliseconds. (252ms)  
> 05:25:53.284 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6042 milliseconds. (446ms)  
> 05:25:59.533 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 34 milliseconds. (6248ms)  
> 05:26:00.736 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 629 milliseconds. (1203ms)  
> 05:26:01.584 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 37 milliseconds. (847ms)  
> 05:26:02.053 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6260 milliseconds. (469ms)  
> 05:26:08.535 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 30 milliseconds. (6481ms)  
> 05:26:08.767 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 19 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:26:09.014 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5 milliseconds. (247ms)  
> 05:26:09.268 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 43 milliseconds. (253ms)  
> 05:26:09.769 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 596 milliseconds. (500ms)  
> 05:26:10.586 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 41 milliseconds. (816ms)  
> 05:26:10.839 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 13 milliseconds. (253ms)  
> 05:26:11.071 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6243 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:26:17.548 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6 milliseconds. (6477ms)  
> 05:26:17.780 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:26:18.012 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 14 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:26:18.228 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 76 milliseconds. (216ms)  
> 05:26:18.529 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 12 milliseconds. (300ms)  
> 05:26:18.751 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 628 milliseconds. (222ms)  
> 05:26:19.584 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 36 milliseconds. (832ms)  
> 05:26:19.847 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 15 milliseconds. (262ms)  
> 05:26:20.069 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6256 milliseconds. (222ms)  
> 05:26:26.541 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 12 milliseconds. (6471ms)  
> 05:26:27.844 [..ting.EditBatchProcessor] Requesting documents (1303ms)  
> 05:26:29.562 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5768 milliseconds. (1718ms)  
> 05:26:35.538 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 28 milliseconds. (5976ms)  
> 05:26:35.838 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 309 milliseconds. (300ms)  
> 05:26:36.824 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 859 milliseconds. (985ms)  
> 05:26:37.910 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 19 milliseconds. (1085ms)  
> 05:26:38.141 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 1 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:26:38.595 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5727 milliseconds. (453ms)  
> 05:26:44.548 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 15 milliseconds. (5953ms)  
> 05:26:44.780 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 381 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:26:45.380 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 15 milliseconds. (600ms)  
> 05:26:45.866 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 822 milliseconds. (485ms)  
> 05:26:46.921 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 6 milliseconds. (1054ms)  
> 05:26:47.606 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5724 milliseconds. (685ms)  
> 05:26:53.543 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 20 milliseconds. (5937ms)  
> 05:26:53.790 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 373 milliseconds. (246ms)  
> 05:26:54.608 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 19 milliseconds. (818ms)  
> 05:26:54.847 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 841 milliseconds. (238ms)  
> 05:26:55.912 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 21 milliseconds. (1065ms)  
> 05:26:56.134 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 30 milliseconds. (222ms)  
> 05:26:56.381 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 7 milliseconds. (246ms)  
> 05:26:56.597 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5729 milliseconds. (215ms)  
> 05:27:02.558 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 12 milliseconds. (5961ms)  
> 05:27:02.790 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 364 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:27:03.360 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 36 milliseconds. (569ms)  
> 05:27:03.607 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 21 milliseconds. (246ms)  
> 05:27:03.845 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 841 milliseconds. (237ms)  
> 05:27:05.631 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5703 milliseconds. (1786ms)  
> 05:27:11.570 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5 milliseconds. (5938ms)  
> 05:27:11.802 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 365 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:27:12.387 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 15 milliseconds. (584ms)  
> 05:27:12.618 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 7 milliseconds. (231ms)  
> 05:27:12.856 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 828 milliseconds. (237ms)  
> 05:27:13.919 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 15 milliseconds. (1062ms)  
> 05:27:14.171 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 18 milliseconds. (252ms)  
> 05:27:14.387 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 13 milliseconds. (215ms)  
> 05:27:14.634 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5701 milliseconds. (246ms)  
> 05:27:20.553 [..ting.EditBatchProcessor] Requesting documents (5918ms)  
> 05:27:22.371 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 313 milliseconds. (1818ms)  
> 05:27:23.804 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5520 milliseconds. (1432ms)  
> 05:27:29.524 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 966 milliseconds. (5720ms)  
> 05:27:31.412 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 276 milliseconds. (1887ms)  
> 05:27:31.928 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 219 milliseconds. (515ms)  
> 05:27:32.812 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5504 milliseconds. (884ms)  
> 05:27:38.550 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 941 milliseconds. (5737ms)  
> 05:27:39.704 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 34 milliseconds. (1154ms)  
> 05:27:39.951 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 13 milliseconds. (246ms)  
> 05:27:40.489 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 210 milliseconds. (537ms)  
> 05:27:40.920 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 237 milliseconds. (431ms)  
> 05:27:42.089 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5222 milliseconds. (1168ms)  
> 05:27:47.543 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 958 milliseconds. (5454ms)  
> 05:27:49.530 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 173 milliseconds. (1986ms)  
> 05:27:49.930 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 227 milliseconds. (400ms)  
> 05:27:50.362 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 34 milliseconds. (431ms)  
> 05:27:50.615 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 225 milliseconds. (253ms)  
> 05:27:51.078 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5245 milliseconds. (463ms)  
> 05:27:56.537 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 954 milliseconds. (5458ms)  
> 05:27:57.721 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 161 milliseconds. (1184ms)  
> 05:27:58.552 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 146 milliseconds. (831ms)  
> 05:27:58.921 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 233 milliseconds. (368ms)  
> 05:27:59.368 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 25 milliseconds. (447ms)  
> 05:27:59.637 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 210 milliseconds. (269ms)  
> 05:28:00.068 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5253 milliseconds. (431ms)  
> 05:28:05.541 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 965 milliseconds. (5473ms)  
> 05:28:06.728 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 151 milliseconds. (1186ms)  
> 05:28:07.097 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 18 milliseconds. (369ms)  
> 05:28:07.576 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 121 milliseconds. (478ms)  
> 05:28:07.962 [..ting.EditBatchProcessor] Requesting documents (385ms)  
> 05:28:09.048 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 5267 milliseconds. (1086ms)  
> 05:28:14.542 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 956 milliseconds. (5494ms)  
> 05:28:15.730 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 155 milliseconds. (1187ms)  
> 05:28:16.115 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 2 milliseconds. (384ms)  
> 05:28:17.010 [..baseapi.WbEditingAction] We are editing too fast. Pausing for 411 milliseconds. (895ms)  
> 05:28:17.648 [..mWikibaseEditsOperation] Storing editing results in: Wikibase editing results (637ms)  
> 05:28:18.312 [refine] GET /command/core/get-history (663ms)  
> 05:28:18.365 [refine] GET /command/core/get-project-metadata (53ms)  
> 05:28:18.381 [refine] GET /command/core/get-models (15ms)  
> 05:28:18.381 [refine] GET /command/core/get-all-preferences (0ms)  
> 05:28:18.381 [refine] POST /command/core/get-rows (0ms)  
> 05:28:18.682 [refine] POST /command/core/compute-facets (300ms)  
> 05:28:18.697 [refine] GET /command/core/get-preference (15ms)

Any idea what might be the issue(s)? Thanks a lot!

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**Author:** ![Gnoeee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/gnoeee/32/429_2.png) [@Gnoeee](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/Gnoeee)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/2 "2025-10-27T16:49:46Z")

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@ConBo Have you checked the granted permissions? It seems you might have missed to give the permission to edit the existing pages..

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**Author:** ![ConBo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/conbo/32/1678_2.png) [@ConBo](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/ConBo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/3 "2025-10-28T07:57:41Z")

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I was able to edit wikitext and change wikidata entries after the upload, but not the captions.  
But where would I find this permission setting? in Wikicommons or in OR in wikibase?

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**Author:** ![Gnoeee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/gnoeee/32/429_2.png) [@Gnoeee](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/Gnoeee)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 8:24am UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/4 "2025-10-28T08:24:39Z")

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I have checked adding caption now from my end.. Noticied that if I’m adding 1 caption for a row its working even though its showing 0% completed.. But for multiple rows its not working…

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**Author:** ![abbe98](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/abbe98/32/1299_2.png) [@abbe98](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/abbe98)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 10:15am UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/5 "2025-10-28T10:15:10Z")

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@ConBo do you mind sharing your Wikimedia username, so that we can have a look at what permissions/rate limits your account has?

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**Author:** ![ConBo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/conbo/32/1678_2.png) [@ConBo](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/ConBo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/6 "2025-10-28T11:04:12Z")

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For 1 record the caption upload does fail, too.

```auto
12:00:50.394 [refine] GET /command/core/get-history (316ms)
12:00:50.396 [refine] GET /command/core/get-history (1ms)
12:00:50.466 [refine] POST /command/core/get-rows (69ms)
12:00:50.520 [refine] GET /command/core/get-project-metadata (53ms)
12:00:50.521 [refine] GET /command/core/get-models (0ms)
12:00:50.524 [refine] GET /command/core/get-all-preferences (2ms)
12:00:50.570 [refine] POST /command/core/compute-facets (45ms)
12:00:50.572 [refine] POST /command/core/get-rows (1ms)
12:00:50.583 [refine] GET /command/core/get-preference (10ms)
12:00:50.629 [refine] POST /command/core/compute-facets (45ms)
12:00:50.636 [refine] GET /command/core/get-preference (7ms)
12:01:06.238 [refine] POST /command/wikidata/preview-wikibase-schema (15601ms)
12:01:17.098 [refine] GET /command/wikidata/login (10860ms)
12:01:17.107 [refine] POST /command/wikidata/preview-wikibase-schema (9ms)
12:01:24.297 [refine] POST /command/wikidata/perform-wikibase-edits (7189ms)
12:01:24.300 [..mWikibaseEditsOperation] Performing edits (2ms)
12:01:24.300 [..ting.EditBatchProcessor] Requesting documents (0ms)
12:01:24.800 [..mWikibaseEditsOperation] Storing editing results in: Wikibase editing results (499ms)
12:01:25.352 [refine] GET /command/core/get-history (552ms)
12:01:25.431 [refine] GET /command/core/get-project-metadata (78ms)
12:01:25.431 [refine] GET /command/core/get-models (78ms)
12:01:25.433 [refine] GET /command/core/get-all-preferences (1ms)
12:01:25.442 [refine] POST /command/core/get-rows (8ms)
12:01:25.495 [refine] POST /command/core/compute-facets (52ms)
12:01:25.505 [refine] GET /command/core/get-preference (9ms)
12:01:28.682 [refine] GET /command/core/get-history (3176ms)
12:01:28.745 [refine] POST /command/core/get-rows (63ms)
12:01:28.785 [refine] POST /command/core/compute-facets (39ms)
12:01:28.793 [refine] GET /command/core/get-preference (7ms)
12:01:30.346 [refine] GET /command/core/get-history (1552ms)
12:01:30.410 [refine] POST /command/core/get-rows (64ms)
12:01:30.458 [refine] POST /command/core/compute-facets (47ms)
12:01:30.467 [refine] GET /command/core/get-preference (9ms)
12:02:43.132 [..e.io.FileProjectManager] Saving some modified projects ... (72664ms)
12:02:43.282 [project_utilities] Saved project '2076824809870' (149ms)

```

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**Author:** ![ConBo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/conbo/32/1678_2.png) [@ConBo](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/ConBo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/issue-with-uploading-captions-to-wiki-commons-files-permission-denied-uploading-too-fast/2613/7 "2025-11-06T13:45:10Z")

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Sent you a PM over a week ago.