# October 30th, 2024, Advisory Committee

**URL:** <https://forum.openrefine.org/t/october-30th-2024-advisory-committee/1870>\
**Category:** Day-to-day project operations\
**Tags:** minute-advisory\
**Created:** [November 1, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/october-30th-2024-advisory-committee/1870 "2024-11-01T14:11:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openrefine.org/martin/32/7_2.png) [@Martin](https://forum.openrefine.org/u/Martin)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/october-30th-2024-advisory-committee/1870/1 "2024-11-01T14:11:20Z")

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## Attendees

- Jan Ainali - Advisory Committee
- Esther M. Jackson - Advisory Committee
- Julie Faure-Lacroix - Advisory Committee
- Antonin Delpeuch - Advisory Committee (last 20 minutes)
- Martin Magdinier - Project Manager

## Discussions

### Feature Prioritization Survey

The results are available: [Results from the Feature Prioritization Survey 2024](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/results-from-the-feature-prioritization-survey-2024/1847)

### WMSE

Martin contacted them earlier this week by email

### Invoices for year-end

CS&S deadline for payment in 2024 is the following

- December 6: Invoice and bill deadline
- December 13: Approvals deadline
- December 20: All payments out

We are missing the following invoices

- Jinoy for the Wikimedia Train the Trainer
- Antoine and Martin expenses for WCFR
- Antonin and Martin regular monthly invoices

### Martin Contract Renewal

Martin contract ends Dec 31, 2024. It will be best to renew it by the end of November.

- Martin is interested.
- Martin expects a decrease in the number of hours required to do the project manager’s job after the current tasks (governance, contributor pathways) are done
- Predicts that a community manager would better suit the needs of OpenRefine, rather than a project manager. We have an example of needs for a community manager [in this conversation](https://forum.openrefine.org/t/github-discussions-the-right-tool-to-communicate-with-new-code-contributors/1843).
- Martin doesn’t feel like community manager is within his expertise - perhaps a new hire would be a better fit for the role

**To do:**

- Through November - discuss the basis for the renewal (how many hours per week) + bar camp 2025
- Martin to present recommendations to the Advisory Committee.

### Developer Hiring

Draft posting in [PR #395](https://github.com/OpenRefine/openrefine.org/pull/395#issuecomment-2448383780). During the call, the group also made suggestions directly to the PR.

**Discussion regarding the repositing structure:** Who that person will report

- If to the Advisory Committee:
  - The Advisory Committee is not one person, which makes it harder to report to.
  - The person needs to “manage up” by coming up with a solution for the AC to approve. He/she needs to be very independent and self-managed.

- If to the project manager:
  - What happens if the person reports to the project manager and this position no longer exists?
  - Does the project manager become a manager for direct reports? Would the project have more staff to manage?
  - Is it something we want to add to the project manager role?

- Who the hire reports to will depend on their level of confidence in self-management and whether they need more supervision and handholding.

**Work env**.

- We want to make it clearer that the person needs autonomy and technical supervision is not done by the AC.
- Weekly report to the AC are not here to provide direction to the hired. The driver is the hired, not the AC.

### Antonin offboarding the AC

Antonin off-boarding the AC before March 2025 to be discussed in the coming weeks.

### Apple Certificate

Apple Certificate should be available by end of the week. Antonin to coordinate with Linda on how to accept the TOS.